w32tm reports the computer did not resync because no time data was available

I got the message “the computer did not resync because no time data was available” after running “w32tm /resync /force”.

I had followed the various howtos out there*, and checked them against each other : as expected, they differed slightly, but none of them worked for me. Well, it turned out that I needed to run the update command, below.

(I thought the problem was that the firewalls were blocking; though I never had such problems with ntp on Linux, or on XP or 7 which allow you to set the time server in a GUI. I opened up port 123 on each of the firewalls: on the local server, the VM host if it’s on a VM, and the firewall. Open them up inbound and outbound, UDP, port 123. I ended up port forwarding port 123 from the gateway to the DC, but maybe that’s not necessary. I thought an outgoing NTP packet would open up the incoming port. — After the configuration was operational, I tested, and the firewall configurations were not necessary.)

The value of the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\W32Time\Parameters key needs a value like this:
0.north-america.pool.ntp.org,0x1 1.north-america.pool.ntp.org,0x1

That’s a space-delimited list, with “,0x1” appended to each domain. Yes, it’s totally weird, and there are some howtos that don’t do it that way, but MS says to do that. They just don’t show you a concrete example.

The purpose of “,0x1” is that it specifies the server to use the SpecialPollInterval to query the timeservers; this value is 3,600 seconds (1 hour).

If you remove the “,0x1”, w32tm will set the poll interval dynamically, based on how accurate the computer seems to be. The upper and lower limits are defined by MaxPollInterval and MinPollInterval, which default to 1024 and 64 seconds respectively. So they’ll poll anywhere from approximately every minute to every 15 minutes, which is fairly frequent. It’s appropriate for a LAN, where you need systems to be in sync.

You need to force w32tm to reload its configuration from the registry:

w32tm /config /update

Check the config with:

w32tm /query /source

The result should be like this:


There are just a lot of “i”s to dot and “t”s to cross.

A quick fix for time drift in a DC running in a Virtual Machine

I have a DC running in a Hyper-V VM. The default configuration is to sync the VM from the VM host. Well, what I had was a VM host that was in the domain, and getting its time from the DC. This was creating a circular reference between the VM host and the DC (running in a VM on the VM host).

If you reset only one clock, it’ll quickly try to sync with it’s network reference time server, which has the wrong time.

In order to set the time, you need to turn off w32tm on both the VM host and the DC running in the VM. Then, set the clocks the same. Then, restart w32tm on each.

net stop w32time

— now set the time — I just use the GUI

net start w32time

Once you get the times synced, and close to whatever is at time.gov (in the USA), you can fix your DC by having it get time from ntp.org.

This circular reference between these two time servers is stupid. It probably causes time drifts to either cancel each other out, or amplify each other, depending on the direction of the drift in each instance of Windows. My system drifted several minutes in a couple months.


You might have some issues with booting, or warning messages, when you reboot VMs and the time’s changed. So watch them reboot and check their times.



I didn’t use this page, but it looks good:

This article linked to mine:

Advanced Screen Scraping With wget (and Mailarchiva)

I was testing a new product called Mailarchiva, and I misunderstood the instructions. The upshot was that a mailbox full of messages was moved into Mailarchiva, and I wanted to restore them to the mailbox.

Mailarchiva comes with a tool to decrypt its message store, but it didn’t work. The problem was that the main product and the utility package got de-syncrhonized, and the one tool I needed stopped working (because a method’s type signature changed). Also, despite being an open source project, they didn’t have sources for the utilities up on sf.net, so I couldn’t re-build the program to make it work.

Not being a major java programmer, I had a hard time coaxing the system to the point where it would run without an exception – problem was, the utility’s libraries expected one format for the message store, and the server’s expected another. It was getting really difficult.

I had some manually produced backups, but not of the current month. (I didn’t follow my own advice not to test with live data.)

You just can win, sometimes.

The solution, sort of, was to use the website dowloader, wget, to interact with the app via it’s web interface, and use that to download the messages to files. Screen scraping.

First, I found a page with great examples:

Then, a quick visit to the wget man page:

Here’s the short version of how to do it:

The first step is to figure out how to log in and get a cookie.

The second step is to figure out how to download the messages.

The third is to figure out the range of pages in the results, and then write a loop to recursively download the messages from each set.

Then, finally, copy the .EML files up to the server via Outlook Express.

Here’s the long version:

First, you have to submit a web form, and get a session id in a cookie. Here’s the command I used:

wget -S --post-data='j_username=admin&j_password=fakepass' is the IP address of my test installation.

The –post-data line lets you submit the login form, as if you were typing it in and submitting it. To find the URL to submit, you look at the source of the login form.

Then, you inspect the output, looking for the Cookie. Then, concot a longer, more complex command to submit the search form:

wget --header="Cookie: JSESSIONID=62141726A04B7C8BDE24C32514EB19F3; Path=/mailarchiva" --post-data='criteria[0].field=subject&criteria[0].method=all&criteria[0].query=&dateType=sentdate&after=1/1/09 1:00 AM&before=12/18/09 11:59 PM&submit.search=Search'

Note that we’re passing the cookie back.

Inspecting the resultant file will reveal that the search worked!

Then, you try to download the attachments by spidering the links, and downloading files that end in .eml.

wget -r -l 2 -A "*viewmail.do*" -A "*downloadmessage.do*" -R "signoff.do" -R "search.do" -R "configurationform.do" --header="Cookie: JSESSIONID=62141726A04B7C8BDE24C32514EB19F3; Path=/mailarchiva" --post-data='criteria[0].field=subject&criteria[0].method=all&criteria[0].query=&dateType=sentdate&after=1/1/09 1:00 AM&before=12/18/09 11:59 PM&submit.search=Search'

That pretty much does what I want, but, I need to do it for a bunch of pages. The quick solution is to use the browser to find out what the last message is, and then write the following shell script:

for i in 1 2 3 4 5 ; do
wget -r -l 2 -A '*viewmail.do*' -A '*downloadmessage.do*' -R 'signoff.do' -R 'configurationform.do' --header='Cookie: JSESSIONID=62141726A04B7C8BDE24C32514EB19F3; Path=/mailarchiva' --post-data='criteria[0].field=subject&criteria[0].method=all&criteria[0].query=&dateType=sentdate&after=1/1/01 1:00 AM&before=12/18/09 11:59 PM&page='$i

Note that a parameter was added to the post. It’s page.

A parameter was also removed, the submit value. Submitting the old value seemed to prevent the paging. There’s probably a branch in the code based on the type of “submit” you’re sending, because there are a few different buttons, with different effects.

Again, that’s discovered by reading the sources and experimenting.

So, I ran the script and waited a long time. Then, I shared the data via Samba (I coded this on a Linux box, but ran the application on Windows). A nice side effect was that the shared files displayed DOS 8.3 filenames. So, the messages, which were originally named “blah.do?id=21341342334.eml” became “BADJFU~5.EML”.

To upload, I used Outlook Express. Despite its bad reputation, OE is good at interacting with IMAP mailboxes, and its support for the .EML file format seems to be good.

Wget saved the day (but it was a long day).

Lesson learned or, “lessons refreshed” is really what happened.

I should have set up a test account, put mail into it, then archived it.

Additionally, I should remember that when dealing with “enterprise” software, it’s not going to work like Windows or Mac (or even Linux) software. Larger businesses are assumed to have certain processes that SOHO businesses don’t.

This would be a perfect application for a web service. It would avoid all the program execution problems. Instead of accessing the data through command line application, access it over the network, using a simple interface.

Additionally, this kludgy rescue would have been impossible if the application had been written to use a Swing GUI or a native GUI. The web interface made it possible to scrape the data out of the system.

As for Mailarchiva – if you are trying to archive your own mail server, it seems to be a good product. The docs could use some work 🙂 I found others, but Mailarchiva running on a Linux box would probably be the most stable solution. The bad news is that it’s not intended for archiving personal email accounts like Gmail, AOL and ISP accounts. So, it wasn’t the right tool for me.

What I really need is a free/cheap archiver for products like Gmail. It would both mirror and archive the IMAP folders, but allow the user to hold on to emails for as long as they wanted. So far, what I’ve found either doesn’t do folders, or doesn’t do archiving. Archiving is just saving every single email it sees, and retaining messages even if they’re deleted.